Record Store Day, Public Radio, and Music Loose Associations
We’re big fans of public radio and festivals for music discovery. Charles Hale and Nelson Gullett had a small world radio-meets-real-life Big Ears connection. Public radio keeps new music alive and thriving, even as the federal government slashed budgets and extremist subcultures try to wield power over art.
Driver 8 Records gears up for Record Store Day and launches a vinyl record club. Sloane Spencer continues to float her musical loose associations, this time sharing, "If Randy Newman, Leon Russell, and Levon Helm hung out listening to the Beatles, this might be the song they wrote." So pour yourself something nice, slide into the booth, and get ready for a mix of good stories and the kind of musical rabbit holes you’ll be glad you fell into.
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Musicians, Festivals, Venues, and Events Mentioned in this Episode
- Albert King
- Amelia Day
- Anna Butters
- Angine de Poitrine
- Arlo Guthrie
- Barley's Knoxville
- Black Pumas
- Blind Boys of Alabama
- Bloodshot Bill
- Bob Dylan
- Brennan Wedl
- Bugs Bunny
- Butch Hancock
- Carolina Chocolate Drops
- Charles Mingus
- Charlie Snider
- Chris Stapleton
- Chris Thile
- Christopher Paul Stelling
- Colin Cripps
- Driver 8 Records
- Dr. John
- Duane Allman
- Grant Alden
- Grateful Dead
- Gwenifer Raymond
- Haley Heynderickx
- International Anthem
- Jason Isbell
- Jeff Parker
- Jimmy Dale Gilmore
- John Lennon
- Kaoru Watanabe
- Kasey Musgraves
- Katie Crutchfield
- Ken Pomeroy
- Leon Russell
- Levon Helm
- Lucinda Williams
- Market Square, Knoxville, TN
- Michael Stipe
- MJ Lenderman
- Nick Cave
- No Depression
- Nonesuch Records
- Peter Buck
- R.E.M.
- Randy Newman
- Red Hot Chili Peppers
- Richard Thompson
- Smoking Dave and the Primo Dopes
- Sturgill Simpson
- Taj Mahal
- The Beatles
- The SteelDrivers
- Todd Snider
- Tom Petty
- Thom Yorke
- Tortoise
- Big Ears Festival
- Thirty Tigers
- Tyler Childers
- Waxahatchee
- WDVX
- WREK
- KRFC
- Wu Fei
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I owe my entire music obsession to public radio, going back to college radio, specifically with the old days of album 88 and WREK in Atlanta.
Speaker A:Welcome to the Dive Bar Music Club podcast, where the guest hosts drop in and out, but the opinions are always passionate and the playlists loud.
Speaker A:It's like cheers if everyone at the bar had a strong take on 90s alt rock or a suspicious number of burned CDs.
Speaker A:Around our table, you'll find an emerging touring songwriter, a former cult band favorite whose work since then is even more interesting, a portrait photographer with a not so secret metal penchant, a record store owner who learned about Swifties the hard way, a retired folk singer who regrets nothing, and a zine maker with more cool music projects than we can count.
Speaker A:We're all just here to share what we're currently obsessed with and maybe convince someone that, yes, that weird Icelandic synth folk band is worth a listen.
Speaker A:Okay, that last one's probably me, Sloan Spencer.
Speaker A:It's Dive Bar Music Club.
Speaker A:Low Key, High Taste Happy hour for music nerds.
Speaker A:Well, hey, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:Welcome back to Dive Bar Music Club, the Low key, High Taste Happy hour for music nerds.
Speaker A:Today we're hanging out with the regulars, Charles Hale and Nelson Gullet.
Speaker A:And I am, of course, Sloane Spencer.
Speaker A:It has been a whirlwind jump into spring for everybody with music.
Speaker A:Sorry about my dog in the background.
Speaker A:He's part of the deal around here, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:He is gonna have a big old time because we have hel.
Speaker A:Helicopters flying over my house today.
Speaker A:Don't know why they've been there all day.
Speaker A:Anyway, musically, it had a lot going on as well.
Speaker A:We've been jamming the latest Sturgill Simpson around my house quite a bit.
Speaker A:And y' all have had a couple of different things going on with both recorded music and live music.
Speaker B:What's that Todd Snyder song Helicopters over the House again?
Speaker C:Yes, but I don't know what song it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker A:I live near an Air force base and my dog has been going crazy for 10 days.
Speaker A:So, Nelson, when we last chatted, you were telling us all about a fantastic music festival coming to Knoxville with big ears, and I gotta admit, I've been living vicariously through your Instagram for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker A:Tell me everything.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, you know, we talked about it on the last show.
Speaker B:Big ears.
Speaker B:Is this just really eclectic music festival that's been happening in Knoxville for.
Speaker B:Really off and on for over 15 years now?
Speaker B:I guess they took a few years off during COVID and whatnot but every year, musicians from around the world.
Speaker B:I think There were over 200 artists this year and they set up venues just up and down the downtown area of Knoxville.
Speaker B:Everything is, is pretty walkable.
Speaker B:I think it's only like a mile, a mile and a half from the furthest end of the festival to the other end of the festival.
Speaker B:I didn't get to do as much as I wanted to.
Speaker B:You know, I have the children and I have other commitments, so I got to do some of the daytime stuff.
Speaker B:But even with that, I only got to about 10 shows.
Speaker B:But I got to see Jimmy Dale Gilmore and Butch Hancock and Ken Pomeroy and Gwennifer Raymond and saw Wu Fay a couple times.
Speaker B:Yehoti, who I'm going to talk about later today.
Speaker B:But just walking the streets of the city, I walked past Chris Thiele on Sunday morning on my way to see the Blind Boys of Alabama.
Speaker B:I got in line to pick up my tickets and the first person I talked to was Christopher Paul Stelling, this wonderful finger pick guitar player who was just there at the festival as a fan.
Speaker B:And, and I'm talking to Chris Stelling and then this other guy walks up, Charles, and says, hi, my name is Charlie Snyder and I think he might be a friend of yours.
Speaker C:Yeah, he hosts the radio show right before me.
Speaker C:So he's a guy in his 70s.
Speaker C:He's been a huge music fan all of his life.
Speaker C:He has amazing stories that if you shut up around him, he will tell you about seeing Charles Mingus, Bob Marley, setting up the wall of sound for the Grateful Dead.
Speaker C:And he and his wife went on a road trip that took them to Knoxville.
Speaker C:I didn't realize when Charlie told me he was going to a festival, that it was the festival that, that Nelson had been talking about.
Speaker C:But I actually know three groups of people from Colorado that were at Big Ears.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was telling me, Charles, about being on a boat with Richard Thompson.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was, that was the story I got.
Speaker C:Yes, he did that last year.
Speaker B:Yeah, so it was just really cool.
Speaker B:We exchanged business cards and I'm like, hey, I think I know a friend of yours.
Speaker B:It was, you know that that's what happens at Big Ears.
Speaker B:I go to see the Blind Boys of Alabama.
Speaker B:I see people from Knoxville that I haven't seen in over a year.
Speaker B:But then I also see the, the head of thirty Tigers record label and just other artists floating around and coming to the shows.
Speaker B:I got to take my teenager to see Ken Pomeroy and Wu Fei.
Speaker B:I got to take the six Year old to see Haley Hendricks.
Speaker B:It was just a cool weekend and a cool vibe.
Speaker B:Wdvx.
Speaker B:We hosted some really cool shows down at Barley's for.
Speaker B:For our live event that was part of the festival.
Speaker B:We actually had the first live music of the festival on Thursday at noon.
Speaker B:We got to have Bloodshot Bill and.
Speaker B:And Yode and we had 3, 400 people in.
Speaker B:In the little pizza joint and just had a great, great time and it lasted all through the weekend.
Speaker A:This sounds fantastic.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I didn't even mention like the experimental thing that I wandered into at the abandoned Greyhound station that was converted to a venue for the festival.
Speaker B:This guy, Kaoru Watanabe has this.
Speaker B:I don't even know what you called it.
Speaker B:He called it Bloodlines Interconnected.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:The stage was in a round, the musicians were set up in a round and it was this multicultural multi instrumental.
Speaker B:There was a full drum kit, but there were also bird calls and people blowing on Coke bottles and instruments that I can't even identify.
Speaker B:Audience interaction.
Speaker B:He would just point to an artist and they would take a little solo and he.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:I can't do it justice by describing it.
Speaker B:It had to be experienced.
Speaker B:But I'm standing here in this multicultural, experimental, just shared sound space and I look next to me and oh, that's the local bluegrass band that plays at the station all the time.
Speaker B:And I'm, you know, it's that kind of event.
Speaker B:You never know who you're going to see or what show they're going to be at.
Speaker B:I had a blast.
Speaker B:And I only got to do like maybe 25% of the festival.
Speaker A:Honestly.
Speaker A:This sounds absolutely fantastic.
Speaker A:And I'm going to have to get Big Ears on my schedule for next year and plan ahead to do it right.
Speaker A:Because that just sounds incredible.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a.
Speaker B:It's a fun time.
Speaker A:You've mentioned a couple of times this band Yehote that you got to see.
Speaker A:And let's just start there.
Speaker A:That's one of the songs that you submitted for this time around.
Speaker A:Were you even aware of them prior to Big Ears?
Speaker B:I became aware of them about a month before the festival.
Speaker B:I had a media pass to the festival so I got on some email lists that I haven't been on before and the.
Speaker B:They reached out about maybe doing an interview before the festival and I looked into it.
Speaker B:There's a great video from a performance they did at kexp.
Speaker B:Kind of like the one you've mentioned before.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The Canadian duo that we played the last time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anjin de Patrin.
Speaker A:We're all big fans of KEXP at this point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:They were performing in their full, like, you can't.
Speaker B:Ukrainian native dress.
Speaker B:They are a Ukrainian folk band, and kind of their mission is to take the music of.
Speaker B:Of their ancestors and update it for current times, but also just to.
Speaker B:To make it fun.
Speaker B:And I got to interview the accordion player, Nadia, and the drummer, who was also the translator.
Speaker B:I was here in my office in Knoxville.
Speaker B:Nadjio was in Ukraine and.
Speaker B:And Tim was in Norway, the drummer.
Speaker B:And we just had a conversation over zoom where they talked about, you know, kind of the things they're facing in their homeland and just wanting to bring joy to their people, but also spread their music to people here.
Speaker B:About a week after the festival, I saw a video of them in Morehead, Kentucky, where I went to college, playing with a student bluegrass band from the center for Traditional Music there and not in.
Speaker B:In Morehead.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:So they've just been going around the country and spreading their message, and it was a fun, fun show.
Speaker B:We have a video from the Blue Plate special that you can find on the WDV YouTube page as well.
Speaker B:Kind of the full performance with.
Speaker B:With them and Bloodshot Bill.
Speaker B:I can't tell you the name of the song that I shared because it's written in Cyrillic characters, and I couldn't begin to tell you the name.
Speaker A:So I. PR is a super weird thing I don't think I've ever shared before.
Speaker A:I took three semesters of Russian in college, and although Ukrainian and Russian are very different languages, obviously, and very different people, they use the same Alphabet.
Speaker A:And I very carefully wrote it out so I could say it, and now I don't know where I put that.
Speaker A:I apologize.
Speaker B:Well, however you say it, the people at Big Ears loved it.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They played our set, and then they had another showcase later that day.
Speaker B:And it's one of the bands that I keep seeing pop up in articles and posts of, well, I didn't know these people and now I'm in love with them kind of thing.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:There's a running theme throughout this show that I didn't realize was going to pop up, but I guess I should have thought about it ahead of time.
Speaker A:And that is the importance of public radio.
Speaker A:Because you work in public radio, Charles, you have connections with public radio, but public radio also is a lot of where music discovery is happening right now.
Speaker A:I know, certainly for me, I mean, KEXP is like my gateway right now, but public radio has faced a lot of funding cuts and backlash from certain subcultures in our society right now.
Speaker A:How is it working in public radio and knowing that what you do every day meets the mission for your community?
Speaker A:For either of y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker B:What are.
Speaker B:What are you seeing out in Colorado?
Speaker C:So I don't have a ton of insight.
Speaker C:There was a time that I was on staff at my station, so I was more aware of the financial situation of things.
Speaker C:Now I'm a volunteer dj.
Speaker C:I know that funding is always an issue.
Speaker C:I know that the.
Speaker C:The national funding was cut.
Speaker C:But then as far as my role or whatever, when they tell me to do a pledge drive show, I do a pledge drive show.
Speaker C:And I've done enough of them that I know the talking points.
Speaker C:We don't need.
Speaker C:I don't need, you know, note cards.
Speaker C:I host a show on Friday, and so Fridays always do pledge drive shows.
Speaker C:You know, if you host on Monday evening, they might skip you this time.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:So I think two pledge drive shows ago, I just sort of had a simple message which seemed to work.
Speaker C:I know it's not all that professional, but my message was, hey, if you like this song that I'm playing, call the station and give us money.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:And I don't like to over complicate things, but the listener funding part is.
Speaker C:It's obviously crucial.
Speaker C:And I don't know all the details.
Speaker C:I know that, like, if you like something, you should support it, because if you don't, it's not going to exist.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what it all boils down to right there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, that's as.
Speaker B:As we are recording this on the 8th of April, I am preparing to kick off the fun drive at WDVX for the spring.
Speaker B:My show is on Wednesday nights.
Speaker B:I'm going to be live on the air tonight, and I'm going to start the fun drive with my show.
Speaker B:I also have a little different perspective from Charles.
Speaker B:As the development director at this station, that's my title.
Speaker B:So I'm kind of in charge of.
Speaker B:Of this whole thing of running the fun drives, of finding grant money and doing that sort of stuff.
Speaker B:Our hit from the federal funding loss amounts to about $100,000 a year.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And that is something we had in the budget.
Speaker B: It had been approved through: Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:When the.
Speaker B:When everything was.
Speaker B:Was collapsed.
Speaker B:So not only did we just lose money for one year, that's.
Speaker B:That's perpetual.
Speaker B:And this is funding we had received for almost 20 years.
Speaker B:It had incrementally increased pretty much every year.
Speaker B:So when I say $100,000, that's $100,000 now, but next year it might have been 120, 130.
Speaker B:So we did like an emergency fund drive last fall that was amazing.
Speaker B:We did another one in the fall.
Speaker B:I'm hoping to do good things again this week.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, you talked about public radio as a discovery tool.
Speaker B:I spoke on the phone with Amelia Day yesterday, who we spoke about here on a previous episode.
Speaker B:And because I was going to run the interview during the fun drive, I kind of asked her, have you seen public radio stations and what have they meant to you in your.
Speaker B:And she talked extensively about especially her early days in Washington.
Speaker B:Some of the local stations are the ones that would take a chance and bring her into the studio to play a set and talk about her music at a time where she didn't have an audience.
Speaker B:And it put her in front of people.
Speaker B:I'm going to talk about a band later in this show if we get to it, that when they started, they were busking on Market Square here in town and would come play the blue plate.
Speaker B:And now they're living in Cincinnati.
Speaker B:They just put out their second or third record doing much bigger things.
Speaker B:But so many artists have that timeline of Tyler Childress played on stage at WDVX when he was sleeping in his car in the garage around the corner.
Speaker B:And I remember that, yeah, the Carolina Chocolate Drops were here very early in their career.
Speaker B:Chris Stapleton, before the Steel Drivers had signed their record deal.
Speaker B:They were.
Speaker B:They were playing at wdvx, their first deal with Rounder.
Speaker B:So it is public radio stations like, like mine, like.
Speaker B:Like what Charles does, that can be that introduction for.
Speaker B:For a lot of folks to.
Speaker B:To find their favorite artists and for artists to kind of find their audience.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And as somebody who spent her entire career in commercial radio, we were not in a position to ever break an artist.
Speaker A:We needed someone to come to us who already had.
Speaker A:We were looking at various metrics for it.
Speaker A:And so it was tough to be a person who thrives on music discovery and working in an area where music discovery was not really part of it.
Speaker A:So finding that balance meant partnering with public radio for live events, because as long as it was local, we could tie those things in.
Speaker A:But I owe my entire music obsession to public radio, going back to college radio, specifically with the old days of album 88 and WREK in Atlanta.
Speaker A: the Telecommunications act in: Speaker A:But when you, when you see that siloing of sounds, it's really the only place that's left for discovery and community and local is public radio.
Speaker A:So for big and small and different ways that we participate in that, I do think it's important.
Speaker A:This episode isn't going to come out until the 20th of this month, but when someone is wanting to support a public radio station, I know that it is most important to do so during the drives.
Speaker A:Is it beneficial to find other ways through the website to donate throughout the year?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Our online donation portal is always open@wdvx.com support you can do a one time donation.
Speaker B:We have sustaining options as well.
Speaker B:We also have a shop on our website where we have, you know, just some T shirts and hats and things of that nature.
Speaker B:Even something as simple as watching our YouTube page that is monetized for the station.
Speaker B:And there, there are tons of ways to help.
Speaker B:But if you have a favorite local independent station, go to their website.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's probably something there that will direct you to some way you can help financially or otherwise.
Speaker A:How about y', all?
Speaker A:Charles?
Speaker C:Yes, we will take money anytime anybody wants to give us money.
Speaker C:And I'll just pull the classic radio move.
Speaker C:I believe Nelson, station is W D V X.
Speaker C:My station is krfc.
Speaker C:You can look up both of those and I imagine that on the front page of both websites there'll be a giant donate button.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And we'll link to all of that in the show notes for folks who are auditory learners.
Speaker A:We'll have those links made for y' all real easily.
Speaker A:Nelson, you mentioned that you got to catch Yahoti through Big Ears and also chat with them as well.
Speaker A:Charles, what have you been listening to lately?
Speaker A:Because between you and Rachel, y' all are gonna make me like jazz.
Speaker C:So yeah, that's a segue into me mentioning Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker A:Yes, you heard that correctly.
Speaker A:Jazz and Flea in the same sentence, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker C:Yeah, ye.
Speaker C:And so Flea released a record a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker C:At this point, I had been hearing about this record and was curious about the record.
Speaker C:Once I saw the performance on Jimmy Fallon Show, I got more excited.
Speaker C:So Flea as a kid was a trumpet player, and then he stopped playing the trumpet to learn the bass when he met the original guitar player from the Chili Peppers.
Speaker C:So he decided several years ago that he really wanted to get back into trumpet and try to get good enough to make a record.
Speaker C:And so that's what this record is, I will say.
Speaker C:And I'm a pretty big jazz fan.
Speaker C:I don't think it's a landmark jazz album, and it's certainly not a traditional jazz album, but it's a lot of fun and it feels good and it's interesting, and those are really the only things that matter to me.
Speaker C:He used a number of significant players in the current jazz world, the avant garde world, and the improvisational world.
Speaker C:Most notably would be Jeff Parker on guitar.
Speaker C:Jeff was also in the band Tortoise.
Speaker B:Was also at Big Ears this year.
Speaker C:I think he was, yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And the bass player, Anna Butters.
Speaker C:She plays with Jeff in some of his Chicago experimental projects, and she's released solo albums.
Speaker C:But she's also Jason Isbell's bass player.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker C:So, yeah.
Speaker C:So Jeff Parker and Anna Butters and possibly other people that were on this album have connections to a label based out of Chicago called International Anthem.
Speaker C:And that label is doing a lot with pushing jazz forward.
Speaker C:You know, current musicians making jazz.
Speaker C: That does not sound like: Speaker C:And so Flea put the pedigree together.
Speaker C:And there are a number of songs with vocals, including Tom York Sings a Song and Nick Cave Sings a Song.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:But the song I chose is called A Plea, and that sort of gives a feel of the instrumental side of the album.
Speaker C:But then also Flea sort of doing Flea things.
Speaker C:He's not.
Speaker C:He's not singing, he's chanting.
Speaker C:And it's a genuine message that he is sharing.
Speaker C:He even says in the song that he knows what he's saying might sound corny, but it.
Speaker C:It's real for him.
Speaker C:And I. I don't listen to songs over and over and over again.
Speaker C:I listen to albums, but I've listened to that song a lot since the album came out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hearing you talk about this record, Charles, a lot of things have started to make a little more sense to me.
Speaker B:Like, there was a rumor going around Big Ears that Flea might show up and play with Jeff Parker and things of that nature.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:Knowing that they are on this record, that.
Speaker B:That finally makes sense to me too.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I went through and listened to some of this.
Speaker B:I'm actually going to play Nick Cave sings on a cover of Wichita Lineman on this record.
Speaker B:I'm gonna.
Speaker B:Incredible break that out at the end of my show this week on the radio.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's.
Speaker B:It's cool to go on my little bluegrass station and say, here's a Flea song.
Speaker B:I like to do that kind of thing when I can but yeah, this is.
Speaker B:I enjoy the song you picked too, but it.
Speaker B:It is explicit, so I had to go somewhere else.
Speaker C:I got the radio edit, so.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, you have to shoot that my way.
Speaker B:But no, this was a cool pick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So the album comes out on.
Speaker C:On none such records, which some people might be familiar because they put out Wilkos Records starting with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but None such primarily does more instrumental, more experimental movie score, that kind of thing.
Speaker C:So again, it's.
Speaker C:I sort of parallel it to Peter Buck's solo albums in that here's a guy who doesn't need to release any music for the sake of making money, and he's not trying to recreate the success that he's had in his primary band.
Speaker C:He's doing something artistic.
Speaker C:And to me, it just sort of works.
Speaker A:This was completely off my radar.
Speaker A:And so musically, I'm one of those people that is like the loose association of sound kind of person.
Speaker A:So when I hear something, I always hear like, little tidbits of other things that are in my previous experience.
Speaker A:So from the completely uneducated, non jazz knowledgeable person, and I will just stake my claim on that.
Speaker A:I'm learning, but I know nothing.
Speaker A:If you grew up hearing Peter and the Wolf or Bugs Bunny, you're gonna hear some sounds that are familiar in the instrumental part of this Flea song that will rope you in.
Speaker A:Even if the fact that this is Flea isn't the thing that brings you to it.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's familiar in a this isn't freaking me out kind of way.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's not freak out jazz.
Speaker C:And this really shouldn't be the sort of genesis point for anybody to become a jazz fan.
Speaker A:It might be.
Speaker A:It might be the gateway.
Speaker C:That would be weird.
Speaker C:But I mean, go ahead.
Speaker B:You never know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I actually.
Speaker A:I think it's a great gateway.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:But, yeah, see, I'm working hard to not be nerdy jazz guy.
Speaker A:Well, no, but I mean, I'm learning.
Speaker A:I'm learning from you.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not like, staking my flag in the sand saying I'm never gonna learn it.
Speaker A:I'm saying I literally don't know.
Speaker A:And so I have to associate things that I hear to something that I can ground it with.
Speaker A:And for me, if it's those silly childhood things and then the fact that I saw Flea play wearing a sock and nothing else 30 something years ago, like, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, your description is.
Speaker C:Is perfect.
Speaker C:Your reference points are.
Speaker C:Are perfect.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:It's weird.
Speaker C:If someone was going to go backwards into jazz, starting here with a guy who, who performed in nothing but a song.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:We've got a few songs this week that, that have like, significant musical loose associations for me, so I will mention those as they roll up.
Speaker A:But let's pop back to Nelson.
Speaker A:What else have you been listening to?
Speaker B:Where should we go next?
Speaker B:You know, I've kind of been doing a deep dive back into Kathleen Edwards recently.
Speaker B:There was an artist recently that released a cover of Kathleen's song six o' Clock News, and I've picked the original from Kathleen to talk about today.
Speaker B:Brennan Weddle and Waxahachie have covered this song.
Speaker B:So my teenager who is a Waxahachie super fan, we're actually gonna see Waxahachie and MJ Linderman next week in Asheville.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker B:She came to me with this cover and said, dad, this, this sounds familiar.
Speaker B:Have, have you played this before?
Speaker B:And we had the occasion of a, of a long drive to Chattanooga last week.
Speaker B:So I put on Kathleen's first two records.
Speaker B: bum Failor, back in the early: Speaker B:And it still is a song that just kind of punches me in the gut when I hear it.
Speaker B:It's a story song of, you know, the woman has a man who's doing some bad things and she's arriving on the scene and just begging him to, you know, your face is already on the six o' clock news.
Speaker B:Just do your time.
Speaker B:Save my broken heart but she can't save him.
Speaker B:The copper has already loaded two rounds.
Speaker B:So it tells a story.
Speaker B:It doesn't a really cool way.
Speaker B:And just, you know, the guitar from Colin Cripps on this tune, it's just, it's something that struck me the, the first time I heard it.
Speaker B: ed at the Americana Awards in: Speaker B:But that was the Johnny Cash hurt year.
Speaker B:And the very next year, Americana introduced the best Emerging Artist award, right?
Speaker B:And I think it's because they, they couldn't recognize this, this album in some way at the awards ceremony.
Speaker B:But yeah, Kathleen Edwards, she went away for a while.
Speaker B:She, she left music and ran a coffee shop in Canada.
Speaker B:But, but she's back.
Speaker B:She put out two releases last year, a covers album that Jason Isbell produced and then another new full length record, a Lot of Tom Petty in her sound, a lot of Lucinda Williams and just an artist I've loved for a long, long time.
Speaker A:I know of her because of you.
Speaker C:I actually heard the COVID song a week or so ago on the radio before I saw that Nelson had submitted the original to Talk about.
Speaker C:And I will just say it seems like Katie Crutchfield is up for singing with almost everybody, which I, which I think is great.
Speaker C:And going back and, and listening to this song and the whole Failure album, I'm just sort of reminded about how big of a deal this album was when it came out in the Americana world.
Speaker C:I just remember everyone was talking about it, all the publications were writing about it.
Speaker C:It was such a huge deal.
Speaker C:And honestly, I feel like the album holds up some 20 something years later.
Speaker A:I hate to admit that I never listened to the full album until you sent this over.
Speaker A:I'd only heard the one song and I just.
Speaker A:Because the station I was working in at the time wasn't playing anything other than that.
Speaker A:And I just was still in that, like overwhelmed with volume of music.
Speaker A:And so Nelson, you're always a person who suggests music that it's like I should have dug deeper back when.
Speaker A:And this was certainly one of them.
Speaker A:And if you're looking for her on social media, I believe she still uses the moniker Kitty the Fool.
Speaker B:I believe so.
Speaker A:As much as I hate social media, I really feel like I learn about where she's coming from through what she shares on that.
Speaker B:You always have an artist that you feel like you should have dug deeper into, right?
Speaker B:Because you hear, you know, there's always hype and buzz around, around this and that and, and I may love something and, and fall deep into it and you may love something and, and tell me about it.
Speaker B:And I just don't have the time to get there.
Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker B:I tell a story anytime I see Grant Alden, one of the founders of no Depression.
Speaker B:Usually I'll see him at Americana Fest.
Speaker B:He moved to, to Moorhead when I was working at the, the radio station there.
Speaker B:And the first time I met him he was in the studio during a fun drive.
Speaker B:We were talking about the origins of no Depression and what he was doing at that time.
Speaker B:And right before he came in, a new issue of no Depression had come out with Kathleen Edwards on the COVID It was a cover story about her follow up album Back to Me.
Speaker B:And I've got Grant live on the microphone and I'm like, yeah, I'm really excited about Kathleen Edwards.
Speaker B:She's on the COVID of no Depression and You know, what do you think about this new record?
Speaker B:And he just very dryly said, I don't drink from that cup, and, you know, it.
Speaker B:You know, it sounds kind of bad, but in a way, and in this, too, it's like, you know, it made me realize that, yeah, there might be things that I play on the radio that I'm not super excited about, but.
Speaker B:But there's other things that I am, and my job is to present all of it as, you know, check this out.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because you might love it.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker B:It's on the COVID of no Depression for a reason.
Speaker B:That doesn't mean everyone at no Depression has to dig into it.
Speaker B:There's stuff that we play on this radio station that isn't in my personal playlist and vice versa, but, you know, there's plenty of cups out there to drink from.
Speaker A:That's a really great way of thinking about it.
Speaker B:You know, we all bring our perspectives and different sounds, and hopefully somebody's gonna fall into something from.
Speaker B:From listening to this.
Speaker A:That was the idea behind Dive Bar Music Club, was that people I respect whose taste it does not exactly overlap with mine.
Speaker A:You know, I obviously didn't bring in someone who is going to be completely off the wall, but it's that we all have our own respected expertise, and it's kind of fun to be able to talk about the stuff that we may or may not be able to share through our professional connection to music.
Speaker A:And so I like to be able to do that.
Speaker A:But speaking of, like, interesting professional connection to music, I've been fascinated with your record store, Charles, since you mentioned the idea of opening your record store.
Speaker A:And one of the songs you suggested this week is because it's a collectible record.
Speaker A:But I'm just going to put this out there with my loose associations.
Speaker A:If Leon Russell, Levon Helm, and Randy Newman were all hanging out listening to a Beatles record, this is the song that would have come.
Speaker A:Am I right?
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:I'm going to trust your judgment on that.
Speaker C:My classic rock knowledge is not great.
Speaker C:But, yes, I did suggest a guy who is generally known as Jesse Ed Davis.
Speaker C:He's a Native American guitar player.
Speaker C:Mostly he did session work, but he did release a couple of of solo albums.
Speaker C:I picked the song you, Belladonna, you, and going back to previous episodes, I bought this giant record collection for.
Speaker C:For my record store, and this is one of the records that was in it.
Speaker C:I was familiar with this.
Speaker C:With this record.
Speaker C:I wanted to find this record, but had not until, you know, a couple of months ago.
Speaker C:And I think this is a really interesting song.
Speaker C:It is also a song that.
Speaker C:It is of the time of classic rock.
Speaker C:It sounds like classic rock, but it's the kind of classic rock that I can listen to because it's not the classic rock that sort of been burned into our brains from 50 years of radio.
Speaker C:And Jesse Davis is a fascinating figure, at least to me, because he's one of these people that worked behind the scenes and has connections to so many different people.
Speaker C:You mentioned Leon Russell.
Speaker C:Leon Russell was a big part of Jesse Ed Davis having a career, but he was the guitar player for Taj Mahal for a number of years.
Speaker A:Incredible.
Speaker C:Played on some Taj Mahal records, performed with Taj Mahal, and as sort of the legend goes, it's a Taj Mahal show and a Taj Mahal album that convinced Duane Allman to learn to play the slide guitar.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:You know, you.
Speaker C:You take that.
Speaker C:But Jesse had.
Speaker C:Davis has also worked with people like Bob Dylan.
Speaker C:What else am I reading?
Speaker C:Oh, George Harrison, John Lennon, Arlo Guthrie, Albert King, Jean Clark.
Speaker C:So you've heard him.
Speaker C:We've all heard him.
Speaker C:His guitar playing without knowing it.
Speaker C:So just a.
Speaker C:An interesting song.
Speaker C:I like the.
Speaker C:The big presence of female background vocals and great guitar player.
Speaker B:I was listening to this and there's, you know, some piano on this track.
Speaker B:So I'm thinking, you know, how can I work this in next to some Dr. John?
Speaker B:And you mentioned Leon Russell.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that all.
Speaker B:It all kind of comes from.
Speaker B:From the same place.
Speaker B:I think that's.
Speaker B:That's a good.
Speaker B:A good reference point, Sloan, that you threw out.
Speaker A:Yeah, I just.
Speaker A:I hear it in the.
Speaker A:In the.
Speaker A:Just in the opening lick right there in those first few measures.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:For me, I'm, like, overwhelmed with references of the era.
Speaker A:And I was not familiar with him by name at all.
Speaker A:But when I pulled it up at first to listen, I was like, this dude looks familiar.
Speaker A:This dude looks super familiar.
Speaker A:And then I was like, concert for Bangladesh.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker C:Oh, is he on that?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And I only knew because it.
Speaker A:I was like, it has to be the same guy.
Speaker A:And so then I, like, went searching because I have, like, for some reason, I have, like, four copies of the full album with the whole insert booklet.
Speaker A:And I don't know why I have all of them, but I do anyway.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's the same guy.
Speaker A:I'd never heard this song before, but it's instantly familiar.
Speaker C:In a good way.
Speaker A:Yeah, in a really good way.
Speaker A:I. I'm thrilled that you found this record and shared this, because I don't know that this ever would have been on my radar otherwise.
Speaker C:That's the thrill of record collecting is what's interesting is talking to both of you.
Speaker C:Always finding the next new thing, the next new thing.
Speaker C:And as a music fan, I used to be like that.
Speaker C:And for reasons I don't completely understand, that's the way I've stopped sort of exploring music that way.
Speaker C:I do much more looking backwards than I do looking forwards.
Speaker C:That being said, when I do find something new that really speaks to me, I don't shut up about it.
Speaker A:Well, so I've mentioned a couple times that you have Driver eight Records in Fort Collins, Colorado, which is a physical record store.
Speaker A:And I've actually ordered a record from you long distance before.
Speaker A:And you're active with record store day and excellent used content and some collaborating with local live events.
Speaker A:But you've got some cool ways of reaching music to music fans as well.
Speaker A:What's the new thing you're doing?
Speaker C:So we just launched what I call the record club.
Speaker C:It's essentially a record of the month club, but we don't do it every month.
Speaker C:So I didn't want to call it the record of the month club.
Speaker C:But if you sign up, it's for one year, $175, and that gets you six records every other month.
Speaker C:The store will pick a record that we think is new and interesting.
Speaker C:It will sort of balance between new music and new reissues.
Speaker C:And so everyone in the club will be sent that record for people that are local to Fort Collins.
Speaker C:On the months that we don't have a record, we're going to host a hangout at a High five bar in town.
Speaker C:Just a bar with a, with a really nice stereo.
Speaker C:Part of that is because I'm very much an introvert and I've given myself a job where I sit in the same chair every day and people come by and talk to me.
Speaker C:And it's great because we're generally talking about music, but it's also exhausting for me and this is a way that I can sort of centralize some of those conversations and, and it's, it's hokey, but build community and build it where I'm not the center of the wheel.
Speaker C:Let.
Speaker A:Oh, I get this.
Speaker C:Yeah, let other people talk to each other sort of not through me.
Speaker C:And I also feel like it's the kind of thing that my customers are looking for.
Speaker C:Middle aged guys are looking for a night out, meet some new people.
Speaker C:So we're gonna, we're gonna pick records Every other month we're gonna host this hangout.
Speaker C:We'll find incentives for people that are local.
Speaker C:We'll also find incentives for people who subscribe to the club who don't live in Fort Collins.
Speaker C:So it's not something that I invented.
Speaker C:Record stores have done this for years.
Speaker C:Bookstores have done it for years.
Speaker C:And I've wanted to do it for six or eight months, but it's been.
Speaker C:I've had to find the confidence to say I think people will.
Speaker C:Will pay money for records that I'm going to pick for them and I'm not going to tell them what the records are and I'm not telling them because I don't know what the records are, not because I want to keep it a mystery.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker A:I think this is fantastic.
Speaker A:We should have done a dive bar, music club, record club.
Speaker A:I didn't even think about that.
Speaker A:We'll let you get this established first, then we'll dive in.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So we, we just put it on our website and maybe by the time this podcast comes out, we will have announced the first record.
Speaker C:I know what I hope it's going to be, but it's a private press record and so the artist doesn't exactly know when they will have the record.
Speaker C:So we'll see.
Speaker C:But I've.
Speaker C:I've already sort of been thinking about future releases based on what I've heard is coming later this year.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker A:And put that website out there real quick.
Speaker C:Driver8records.com.
Speaker A:This is very cool.
Speaker A:I love that you're doing this.
Speaker A:And I, boy, do I get it.
Speaker A:About not wanting to be the hub of the wheel.
Speaker A:I love, love, love to connect people, but then I want to step out and observe.
Speaker A:I don't want to be part of it.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:It's sort of like, let me introduce these people that talk to me about the same thing so they can talk about it.
Speaker C:A lot of people that come to the store regularly have heard me talk about being an introvert because it's.
Speaker C:It's something I like to acknowledge.
Speaker C:And initially they're surprised because I'm good at talking to people, especially when we're talking about music.
Speaker C:But what they don't realize is that they are actually starting the conversation.
Speaker C:I'm not the one starting the conversation.
Speaker C:I'm just the guy sitting there.
Speaker C:And so people want more from me, from the social aspect than I'm really capable of giving.
Speaker C:And so this is a way for me to.
Speaker C:Turned sort of my limitations into a positive for other people, I think this is perfect.
Speaker C:Plus, I get to sort of introduce records to people, so how is that a bad thing?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:So, Nelson, you always have, as we say, I always say you have excellent suggestions, but you've got some other great music this time around that I would love to let you share about.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think the.
Speaker B:The only one I have left, I kind of alluded to earlier.
Speaker B:The Montvales just put out a new record, Path of Totality.
Speaker B:And this is a duo from East Tennessee I talked about.
Speaker B:They used to busk on Market Square, and they've played the WDVX Blue Plate special for a long time.
Speaker B:There was a period of time where I had a day job on the other side of town, so I didn't get to attend a Blue Plate for seven or eight years there.
Speaker B: ars ago with previous record,: Speaker B:They just put out a record a couple weeks ago, Path of Totality.
Speaker B:And it kind of.
Speaker B:They talk about they were on tour and they just happened to be driving from one show to the next, and they kind of followed the path of an eclipse on their drive, which, if you look at the COVID art, they're wearing their eclipse glasses and staring up at the sun, but.
Speaker A:Oh, that makes sense now.
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker B:It's kind of a local band made good kind of story here in Knoxville.
Speaker B:They're living in Cincinnati these days and they've got, you know, a few songs that are more Ohio centric, but just, you know, kind of a vaguely topical album, but just some.
Speaker B:Some really cool sounds kind of in that folky duo kind of realm.
Speaker B:And they're actually playing here in town in a week or so, so we're hoping to get them to stop by the station again and maybe talk to us.
Speaker B:But, yeah, the mod fails.
Speaker B:I don't know if they're on a ton of people's ra, but it's.
Speaker B:It's a record I've really been enjoying.
Speaker A:Call me crazy, but that whole, like, loose associations thing.
Speaker A:Tell me if y' all hear the slight quality of Casey Musgrave's voice as well, in her vocal delivery.
Speaker A:Just me.
Speaker C:So, you know what?
Speaker C:One, I would say that's entirely possible.
Speaker C:What I heard immediately was just the Waxahachie influence.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Which I feel like is.
Speaker C:Is out there a lot these days, which is a great thing.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:But I really enjoyed this.
Speaker C:And since you mentioned Casey Musgraves, I will just mention that the Non commercial indie rock station in Denver has been playing Casey Musgraves song recently, which is really interesting to me, but I thought the Montvales were a really good band.
Speaker C:I was not familiar with them.
Speaker C:I'm going to listen to them again, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We had a bit of an internal debate on.
Speaker B:On Casey's new song.
Speaker B:I think we.
Speaker B:Ultimately, we're.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're spinning it.
Speaker B:Obviously, it's Casey Musgraves, but yeah, it.
Speaker B:It goes some places, let's say.
Speaker B:But yeah, I can hear certainly that.
Speaker B:I hear the Waxahachie.
Speaker B:You know, we talked about.
Speaker B:She's kind of everywhere when you talk about.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Katie Crutchfield.
Speaker B:And I think we're going to see a ton of new artists that are kind of following that lead of Waxahachie.
Speaker B:And, you know, she's followed some different paths in her career.
Speaker B:Some of her early.
Speaker B:The Waxahachie records were a little more rocking.
Speaker B:Then she got into the more Americana thing.
Speaker B:I've heard her say live that she kind of models some of her vocals after Michael Stipe.
Speaker B:I mean, you can.
Speaker B:You can chase influences all the way back if you want to get into.
Speaker B:To a rabbit hole like that.
Speaker B:And I just, you know, I think it's cool when I hear an artist.
Speaker B:Waxahachie is someone who I definitely.
Speaker B:She resonates with me just in her sound, but I never quite put a finger on it.
Speaker B:And then to hear her say, oh, yes, I also love this band that you're a fanatic of.
Speaker B:And those pieces start to fall into place.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think we have.
Speaker A:The three of us are the REM fans of this crew.
Speaker A:So I think so.
Speaker C:I feel like that's a little bit of a dig at the non REM fans, and I'm fine with that.
Speaker A:No, I think it's just more coincidental that I know from years of chats that the three of us happen to be very big fans in very different ways of the band anyway.
Speaker A:Well, so what other stuff do y' all have coming up?
Speaker C:Don't have anything.
Speaker C:My life is revolved around April 18, which is record Store Day.
Speaker C:So when this comes out, that will be over.
Speaker A:So, Charles, what does Record Store Day look like for a small independent store like yours?
Speaker C:So there are a thousand opinions on Record Store Day of does it benefit a store?
Speaker C:Does it benefit the customer?
Speaker C:And what I would say is that I've figured out a way to make it work for us, which means we are doing very little to try to reach people beyond our regular customer.
Speaker C:Base.
Speaker C:We are not trying to figure out what's the next big thing on Record Store Day, the next that everybody's gonna freak out about.
Speaker C:Because I feel like a store can lose a lot of money trying to buy records that don't make sense for their store.
Speaker C:So we will have a line of 50 or so people when we open and we've purchased a ton of records for Record Store Day, but we don't purchase everything and we certainly don't purchase as many as much larger stores do.
Speaker C:But if I can make the first 35 of those 50 people happy, then I feel successful.
Speaker C:It's impossible to know how many people want any specific record because record stores are filled with titles from previous record store days that no one is interested in.
Speaker C:It's a bad business model for me to have those records.
Speaker C:So I kind of feel like a record store that has a lot of leftovers doesn't really know their customer base.
Speaker C:Maybe that's the benefit of me sitting at the cash register almost every day and seeing what people buy and talking to them.
Speaker C:But we have a very simple and straightforward record store day and I think people enjoy it.
Speaker A:Nelson, are you a collector on Record Store Day?
Speaker B:I'm not so much a collector.
Speaker B:My daughter is more the vinyl person than I am these days.
Speaker B:But we are actually partnering with a local record store here in town, Lost and Found Records.
Speaker B:And they do, it might be the opposite of what Charles was just talking about.
Speaker B:They have a big parking lot and they kind of throw an all day concert and you know, obviously they're, they're selling records but they also turn the day into a fundraiser for a local non profit.
Speaker B:And this year Lost and Found Records, WDVX is their benefiting organization.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:So yeah, we're going to be set up at our local record store on the 18th.
Speaker B:A bunch of local bands are playing, you know, legendary local bands like Smoking Dave and the Primo Dopes.
Speaker B:Also some, some newer, some newer folks are going to play and we're just going to have a big time.
Speaker B:We'll be selling some WDVX merch, taking donations, doing that kind of thing.
Speaker B:And yeah, we've got a good partnership with these people and it's just, it's fun to, to go to a record store.
Speaker B:We don't have as many as we used to in this town.
Speaker B:Especially thinking 15, 20 years ago.
Speaker B:And it's, it's great to support a place like Lost and Found, a place like Driver 8.
Speaker B:You know, the stores I grew up going to don't exist anymore.
Speaker B:So the ones that are there I want to take care of and keep going.
Speaker A:I have two hobbies.
Speaker A:I run and I listen to music.
Speaker A:And so whenever I go somewhere new, I go to the local running store if they have one, which are few and far between.
Speaker A:And I hit up whatever their record store is.
Speaker A:Which weirdly, right now it's probably easier to find a record store than a locally owned running store.
Speaker A:But yeah, I always pay attention to what is in that record store day leftovers bin.
Speaker A:And I'm just kind of fascinated by the concept of it as is.
Speaker A:But I also, I was in a. I'm not going to name them because it's a great record store, but I was in a place recently looking for a very specific record and they don't catalog any of their used vinyl.
Speaker A:So they had no idea if they had this thing that I was looking for.
Speaker A:And like, had they had it, I 100% would have bought it.
Speaker A:But it's all their used vinyl is along one wall in no order whatsoever.
Speaker A:And I was like, this is awesome for like the days when I don't have anything to do, but I have 30 minutes.
Speaker A:It was just a weird, like, I get it, but I don't get it.
Speaker A:And it's because I haven't worked retail in a really long time.
Speaker A:So it was just, it just kind of got me thinking about like the retail hands on aspect and the record store day aspect with the having to pre purchase from the list and anticipate who your customers might be because you can't like pre agree to sell stuff.
Speaker A:There's rules around record record store day, I guess is what I would say.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:What was the record you were looking for?
Speaker A:I don't even remember right now.
Speaker A:I was, I was, you know, I'm super ADHD and I was on a roll about something very specific.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:We alphabetize our used records.
Speaker A:That would have helped.
Speaker C:But the.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The primary cataloging system for our used records is my brain.
Speaker A:I get that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:That's not a long term solution, but I.
Speaker C:Our inventory is less than 3,000.
Speaker A:Got it.
Speaker A:So that makes sense to me though.
Speaker A:I want to plug a couple of things that I was listening to this month just real fast because none of it is super like earth shattering.
Speaker A:It's more back to that whole, like, I've been on this loose associations kick lately.
Speaker A:And a few episodes ago I told y' all about finding cure for paranoia through the tiny desk submissions and a group out of Texas and I said, I don't really know anything about Dallas, Texas music.
Speaker A:So I was like, I am going to look at all of my Texas stuff that I have that's not like, Austin, Texas specific.
Speaker A:And it got me thinking about what I was listening to during the pandemic, because I was having a very hard time transitioning to work from home, which is weird because I've partially worked from home my entire career.
Speaker A:But at any rate, I was listening to a lot of, like, super chill music.
Speaker A:And so Krungman, who's Texas Connected, became like my background music every single day.
Speaker A:And I found them because of Leon Bridges.
Speaker A:And then they collaborated on that Texas sun ep, so other loose associations connected back to Texas and that kind of music and, like Black Pumas and stuff.
Speaker A:I listened all the way through to the cure for paranoia of every single thing that was on Apple Music.
Speaker A:And the algorithm rarely does me right.
Speaker A:But it popped up Silver Skylarks, and I was like, clearly this is new, but this is the 70s soul I have been looking for.
Speaker A:And so if you just want something fun, it's not earth shattering.
Speaker A:They've got some great players, including Adrian Quesada from Black Pumas.
Speaker A:It's literally like imagine the Buick Skylark.
Speaker A:You remember that?
Speaker A:Okay, so Silver Skylarks.
Speaker A:Think you're riding along in that.
Speaker A:And this is the record you're listening to.
Speaker A:It's just fun, really.
Speaker A:Technically, very good.
Speaker A:It's fresh, it's new, but it's not sonically creating anything we haven't heard before.
Speaker A:But if you're cool with that and just want something a little bit different, totally recommend it.
Speaker A:Power Moves is kind of the.
Speaker A:The lead song.
Speaker A:It's been out for a couple of years at this point, but new, fun, totally recommend.
Speaker B:Nice little funky groove on that too.
Speaker B:I. I enjoy.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I was just kind of like, in that Texas.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, what do I know about Dallas, Texas, Texas music?
Speaker A:I was like, well, I know Deep Ellum, but I don't know anything.
Speaker A:So I was like, I'm gonna learn about Dallas, Texas music today.
Speaker A:It was one of those sort of.
Speaker B:Things, and Crumbin too, that you mentioned you had.
Speaker B:You had thrown that Crumbin.
Speaker B:Leon Bridges collaboration.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Texas sun, that's the song that introduced me to Krungman a few years ago and just, you know, what a great band now I hear them in every coffee shop and Delhi and yeah, anytime I'm out everywhere, there's a lot of ambient Crumbin music in the atmosphere these days.
Speaker A:There really is.
Speaker A:There really is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Fun stuff.
Speaker A:Fun stuff.
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